Review of Mundorft M Tube Cap Series Capacitors

Power Supply caps.. 99.10.177.111
Posted on Feb xiii, 2012 at 12:03:21
Looking for feedback on Mundorf M-lytic HV caps and Obbligato PSU film Axial caps? TIA.

RE: Power Supply caps.., posted on February xiv, 2012 at 09:17:26

Posts: 23 Location: Frankfurt Joined: December 29, 2006

Hi, my expierence in tube amps: The Mundorf Thousand-Lytics HV are groovy. Very good ballance from top to bottom. Too very practiced micro to macro dynamics. Much improve than highly praised PanasoniC TS-ED. Only: Don't mix them with other brands !! The whole PSU must have M-Lytics HV. Too the output tube cathode cap must be a Mundorf 100�F/100V Lytic. All Mundorf caps are made by FT-Cap (OEM) in Germany. Get to askjanfirst - Electrolytics, yous tin go them there for the half price. Also the Mundorf Film Tube Cap rectangular is the same as FT-Cap Joule-Cap. I will try these in my preamp. The Obbligato Motion-picture show PSU caps are one of the best i have tried. Killer bass and hammer dynamics in my amp PSU: LCLC - 15H-47�F-15H-47�F. Very good resolution and smooth ballance. GE 97F motor run caps are sluggish, no comparison. Just again: Don't mix them with other caps. Also the tube cathode featherbed must be the same Obbligato Film PSU cap. No Gold or Copper Obbligato Film caps. Don't mix them with the slow sounding Obbligato Oil PSU caps ! From Clarity Cap there are new tube PSU caps. I use a 2 stage 6E5P - 45 SE amp on 100db loudspeakers. I don't have tested all existing brands of capacitors, but a lot of them. I know some people say mixing capacitors is the best for the sound. At that place is no perfect cap, you take to test information technology in your amp. Johann

RE:Obbligato Pic PSU Cap, posted on February 14, 2012 at 12:21:52
Neff	I exercise not find an Obbligato Film PSU series cap. Are you referring to Premium film power supply cap (500VDC)?

RE:Obbligato Movie PSU Cap, posted on Feb 14, 2012 at 12:33:03
Posts: 4286 Joined: Jan 24, 2001	Here ya go Neff:. Obbligato PSU film caps

RE: Power Supply caps.., posted on February 14, 2012 at 13:06:22

Posts: 4286 Joined: Jan 24, 2001

Johann hi, Thank you for all the great info. Your power supply commentary is with merit. I too belong to that theory of keeping them the aforementioned. Chokes are custom and sized according to loading.(they used to custom):-( For this application, my preamp is CCS plate loaded and the cathode is diode biased. When doing the PS, I don't get above 50uf in motor runs or lytics. I'll parallel them if need be or they get syrupy and sluggish. I keep C1<50uf. 2^10uf > 10H > 3^50uf > 40H > 50uf. The problem I'm having is a midrange glare and "probably" owing to the motor run cap's depression DF/ESR feeding the reg'd B+ PS which is SS, ending with an N-channel FET > 5uf motor run > plate load. I would like to try your suggested caps in the concluding C position to smooth things out, then take it from there. I did so with a panny TSUP in the concluding C position with success, just it sucked the life and bass out of it's presentation. KONEK47 KONAZ50 KONLF50-2 Could these be the ones yous're referring to? If you could lend some help, it would be much appreciated. PM me if yous don't heed. I'll demand some guidance and translation help.:-) Cheers, Wheeze

RE: Tnx, posted on February xiv, 2012 at thirteen:55:51
Neff	I have used the premium film as reported in other posts- good cap.

RE: Ability Supply caps.., posted on February 14, 2012 at 18:03:52

Posts: 755 Joined: March xviii, 2008

Lauscher, I have compared the FT-Cap Joule data sheet http://world wide web.ftcap.de/downloads/film/JC2010.pdf to the Mundorf M-Tube cap data sheet: http://www.partsconnexion.com/prod_pdf/mund_tubecap.pdf The values and sizes exercise not match. Besides, FT does not listing any round tin can PS MKP caps that look like the circular can Mundorf caps. If M-Tube caps are made by FT for Mundorf, they are for sure custom caps. I have used M-Tube caps with outstanding results, after a l 60 minutes break-in period. They sound very clean and detailed, fifty-fifty-handed and extended, as compared to a high-quality european-made electrolytic cap, aforementioned value. Best wishes

RE: Ability Supply caps.., posted on February fourteen, 2012 at xx:25:28
Posts: 4286 Joined: January 24, 2001	Casouza hi, Accept you compared the K-Tube cap with a motor run? Thanks, Wheeze

RE: Tnx, posted on February 15, 2012 at x:05:52

Posts: 23 Location: Frankfurt Joined: December 29, 2006

Hi, Casouza: Please read my first postal service. You will run into, i was talking about the rectangular TubeCaps. Look at the Mundorf homepage datasheets for TubeCap: -10�F/1000V - ESR: 13mOhm - ESL: 17nH -xx�F/750V - ESR: 10mOhm - ESL: 17nH -30�F/600V - ESR: 9mOhm - ESL: 17nH Dimensions for all 3 versions: 55x35x30mm Now get to the FT-Cap homepage, click movie caps, JouleCap and datasheets: You volition find accented identical values. In Europe Distrelec is selling 20�F and 30�F + other values cheaper than Mundorf. Wheezer: I accept sent you a PM. For those who live in Europe the FT-Cap from askjanfirst are cheaper than Mundorf HV caps. Mundorf HV - MLAL - 100�F+100�F/450V - pricelist: 21.xc Euro askjanfirst - KONAZ100 - 100�F+100�F/450V - pricelist: 9.33 Euro They are absolute identical. Johann

RE: Power Supply caps.., posted on February 16, 2012 at 08:40:27
Iczerman	I tried the 200uf/550 volt m-tube cap and also the continental 25uf 625 volt oil caps. I actually similar the m-tube caps..the continental caps sound "i/100 of a little more" shine than the g-tube caps...just the m-tube caps have them screw on terminals....simply love those spiral on terminals!

GE Dielektrol caps.., posted on February xvi, 2012 at 10:48:twoscore

Posts: 4286 Joined: January 24, 2001

I found a stash of GE Dielektrol motor runs and swapped out the last C, 50uf 370v circular CSC for a GE 70uf, 280V huge oval. No more than glare, just smooth overall and much better bottom end. Certainly is a difference in MR caps. Plenty of oil within. I also found GE Dielektrol 50uf 220V caps but I can't hear any oil inside? Neither of these have a printed label; blackness ink is directly printed on the example. Iczerman, who makes the Continental Caps? They appear to be a standard motor run tin can. Who carries them? Thank you, W

RE: GE Dielektrol caps.., posted on February 17, 2012 at 08:14:24
Iczerman	Hello! Parts Connexion carries the Continental caps. Continental Capacitors

RE: GE Dielektrol caps.., posted on February 17, 2012 at 08:58:50
Posts: 4286 Joined: January 24, 2001	Ah, I must have missed that(TPC). I searched the net but could not find a manufacturer of those caps. Tx, W

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